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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s an Incredible Life</title>
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		<title>By: bobg</title>
		<link>http://www.geebobg.com/2007/07/13/its-an-incredible-life/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>bobg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, Vicky: &lt;i&gt;Finding Nemo&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;The Incredibles&lt;/i&gt; aren't really comparable in the way I tried to compare them in this post.  I was confusing the mere &lt;em&gt;message&lt;/em&gt; of &lt;i&gt;Finding Nemo&lt;/i&gt;, which as you point out is explicit in the text, with the &lt;em&gt;allegory&lt;/em&gt; of &lt;i&gt;The Incredibles&lt;/i&gt;, which is buried in the subtext.

Both films have relevant lessons for my life, and I was not put off by the performances or the script of &lt;i&gt;Nemo&lt;/i&gt; -- quite the opposite.  But I agree that &lt;i&gt;The Incredibles&lt;/i&gt; is by far the more sublime.  Middle age is a much broader topic, for one thing, than overprotectiveness.  But I suspect that the sheer satisfaction of decoding the allegory lends it extra meaning, or at least meaningfulness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Vicky: <i>Finding Nemo</i> and <i>The Incredibles</i> aren&#8217;t really comparable in the way I tried to compare them in this post.  I was confusing the mere <em>message</em> of <i>Finding Nemo</i>, which as you point out is explicit in the text, with the <em>allegory</em> of <i>The Incredibles</i>, which is buried in the subtext.</p>
<p>Both films have relevant lessons for my life, and I was not put off by the performances or the script of <i>Nemo</i> &#8212; quite the opposite.  But I agree that <i>The Incredibles</i> is by far the more sublime.  Middle age is a much broader topic, for one thing, than overprotectiveness.  But I suspect that the sheer satisfaction of decoding the allegory lends it extra meaning, or at least meaningfulness.</p>
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		<title>By: vmbrasseur</title>
		<link>http://www.geebobg.com/2007/07/13/its-an-incredible-life/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>vmbrasseur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I should point out that when I made &lt;a href="http://firststep.vmbrasseur.com/?p=312" rel="nofollow"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; I had completely forgotten that &lt;em&gt;The Incredibles&lt;/em&gt; is a Pixar movie.  I greatly enjoyed that movie and recognize it as more than merely colorful and diverting.  I agree with your analysis of this movie and its themes.  The message was not lost on me, I merely forgot about it.  With my memory this happens all the time.

I cannot, however, agree with you on &lt;em&gt;Finding Nemo&lt;/em&gt;.  True, I cannot relate on the same level as you as the closest I am to parenthood is being the warden of a &lt;a href="http://firststep.vmbrasseur.com/?p=286" rel="nofollow"&gt;geriatric feline&lt;/a&gt;.  I don't think that particularly matters though.  Even if I were a parent I still would not like this movie.  Did I miss the message of over-protectiveness?  How on Earth could I when it was delivered in such a heavy-handed manner?  This movie played to the cheap seats.  Shiny for the sake of shininess, entirely obvious, unclever writing, distracting voice talent and, as a nail in the coffin, a bumbling comic sidekick (voiced by Ellen DeGeneres).  I'm very glad that you're able to find comfort and inspiration in it and that you do, I admit, raises it a notch in my estimation.  But that estimation is now and always will be a low one despite that.

FWIW, I'm notoriously brutal to movies, rarely find one I actually like (yet I keep watching) and I've always understood and appreciated &lt;em&gt;It's a Wonderful Life&lt;/em&gt;.  

Also, this comment was edited using vi so I'm a lost cause anyway.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I should point out that when I made <a href="http://firststep.vmbrasseur.com/?p=312" rel="nofollow">this post</a> I had completely forgotten that <em>The Incredibles</em> is a Pixar movie.  I greatly enjoyed that movie and recognize it as more than merely colorful and diverting.  I agree with your analysis of this movie and its themes.  The message was not lost on me, I merely forgot about it.  With my memory this happens all the time.</p>
<p>I cannot, however, agree with you on <em>Finding Nemo</em>.  True, I cannot relate on the same level as you as the closest I am to parenthood is being the warden of a <a href="http://firststep.vmbrasseur.com/?p=286" rel="nofollow">geriatric feline</a>.  I don&#8217;t think that particularly matters though.  Even if I were a parent I still would not like this movie.  Did I miss the message of over-protectiveness?  How on Earth could I when it was delivered in such a heavy-handed manner?  This movie played to the cheap seats.  Shiny for the sake of shininess, entirely obvious, unclever writing, distracting voice talent and, as a nail in the coffin, a bumbling comic sidekick (voiced by Ellen DeGeneres).  I&#8217;m very glad that you&#8217;re able to find comfort and inspiration in it and that you do, I admit, raises it a notch in my estimation.  But that estimation is now and always will be a low one despite that.</p>
<p>FWIW, I&#8217;m notoriously brutal to movies, rarely find one I actually like (yet I keep watching) and I&#8217;ve always understood and appreciated <em>It&#8217;s a Wonderful Life</em>.  </p>
<p>Also, this comment was edited using vi so I&#8217;m a lost cause anyway.  <img src='http://www.geebobg.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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